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Offline Jabb3r

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Throat Hit HOW?
« on: May 30, 2012, 02:35:05 PM »
This TH lark is the final piece of the vaping puzzle I'm tryin to put together.

I've read countless articles on it and the consistency aint good.

I purchased some VG Titanium Ice (72mg) and my last mix was of the 11mg strength (aint tried no higher)

I'm usin VG/Distilled water 75%/25% respectively for dilutent

But I aint gettin no TH @ all. :(

It's like smokin a silk cut super dooper lite, nothin.

Equipment is a 510 passthrough and screwed into that is a 2.4 - 2.6 ohm 510 clearomizer.

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I have read only juice 18mg and above gives a TH, but also red people experience it on no nic juice
so basically back to square 1

I really want a bit of TH, means alot to me lol

Thanks in advance

Jab
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Re: Throat Hit HOW?
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2012, 02:44:17 PM »
A couple of things that I can think of:

1.  The clearomiser:  the cartomisers for the 510 all give a very smooth vape with little throat hit.  This is what I used to use as I was a silk cut smoker and needed something similar to ease me into it.

2.  A higher level of nic will increase the throat hit.  Nic on its own is very bitter and will add to the hit.  A higher nic strength would help to increase the TH.

When I use the eGo-C or Tornado-T attys they give a much harder throat hit (what I use now) more probably from the T rather than the C.  Maybe you would try one of those.  Also what flavour are you using as sometimes the flavour alone can help.  More minty or tobacco flavour give more hit where as the fruit ones seem to be a much milder hit on the throat I find.
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Re: Throat Hit HOW?
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2012, 02:50:05 PM »
A lot of factors can influence TH, Nicotine strength being the big one, what atty at what voltage is another, even the flavour can contribute.
If you want TH that will rip your lungs out try some Diablo Loco or failing that put a few drops in your preferred mix.
Take a look at this it should help.
http://forum.totallywicked-eliquid.com/mixing-discussions/mixing-101-11504/
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Re: Throat Hit HOW?
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2012, 03:04:22 PM »
You are mixing using nearly all VG? You should get some PG into your mix,
this can help a little with TH.

A DCT could also help with throat hit, my DCT blows my head off when its new!  ???


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Re: Throat Hit HOW?
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2012, 03:20:08 PM »
The other PG might be a way to go as I'm onna the unlucky ones where regular PG is concerned.

But I have to do somethin cause it's sad but I really enjoy that TH I get from a rollup and I want me vapin
to do the same thing.

Edit:

Infact only PG thing I have is an old order of 0 nic TW ejuice I purchased before I discovered me lack
of tolerance to regular PG based juices,

How would I go about mixin that in for experimental reasons.
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Re: Throat Hit HOW?
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2012, 03:41:56 PM »
I'll have a good read through that think, thanks m8, but don't think any of the diablo flavours are available now.

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Re: Throat Hit HOW?
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2012, 03:45:46 PM »
sorry jabb3r I didnt realize that you didnt get on with PG.
I would hazard a guess that if you didnt get on with PG premix,
then you still wont get on with it if youre mixing your own.

You could always go for a DCT. These are dual coils, and
do have more throat hit than a regular atty, or clearo etc.

Another thing you could do would be to get a VV device, and up the voltage
a little.


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Re: Throat Hit HOW?
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2012, 03:55:46 PM »
I'm not suggesting you try this but it's what some experimental vapers have done in the search for a scorching throat hit. Click.

You could try adding some menthol crystals... I know that that will have been discussed extensively here at times, same with pepper, so maybe do a search through this forums posts :)

Menthols okay, I've occasionally added menthol crystals. Not brave enough to do cayenne, nooo way.

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Re: Throat Hit HOW?
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2012, 04:10:20 PM »
I always found the clearomiser will make your vape smooth, because of the position of the atty at the top the vape is warmer, you should look at a bottom coiled cartomizer and then put it on an ego twist so you can crank up the voltage somewhat, maybe you could look at direct dripping, this is great unless your out and about, other than that +1 ceekay, get a dct or duel coil cartomizer.

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Re: Throat Hit HOW?
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2012, 04:59:59 PM »
You are mixing using nearly all VG? You should get some PG into your mix,
this can help a little with TH.

A DCT could also help with throat hit, my DCT blows my head off when its new!  ???
+1 on the DCT, if you take a big enough pull you get a massive hit on the throat, enough to make your eyes water :'(

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Re: Throat Hit HOW?
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2012, 06:22:44 PM »
Well I made up a 24mg nic mini 1.5ml batch to try and still no real TH so looks like I need to change tactics.

I saw the DCT's but not sure what to go for for to put on me 510 passthrough.

Is 510 the standard thread now?

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Re: Throat Hit HOW?
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2012, 06:36:51 PM »
Ok so the thing is your using all VG to dilute that will make a very smooth vape. VG smooths out the vape.

What you need is PG

since you have VG TI then all you need is something like this to make a 20ml of good throat hit liquid

VG titanium ice 2ml
VG 2ml
flavour 2-3ml depending on flavour concentrate
The rest PG

Throat hit will be great as PG gives throat hit,. I love it and normally make up similar mixes

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Re: Throat Hit HOW?
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2012, 07:39:11 PM »
Well PG don't agree with me so need other solutions. I can explain why if yu wish.

And when yu say rest yu mean 13ml of PG then? That really wouldn't agree with me head, lol

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Re: Throat Hit HOW?
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2012, 07:58:28 PM »
Well I made up a 24mg nic mini 1.5ml batch to try and still no real TH so looks like I need to change tactics.

I saw the DCT's but not sure what to go for for to put on me 510 passthrough.

Is 510 the standard thread now?
yes, most come with a 510 thread these days, but if your not sure ie what your getting is correct then just ask, someone around here will tell you if its correct or not, or phone tw, they will guide you to the correct kit also.

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Re: Throat Hit HOW?
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2012, 09:31:03 PM »
Mm OK well its kinda hard to gain throat hit from an ecig without upping pg ratio higher nice will but only if mixed with a pg dilutant as well.

This one may well be better placed with Dr Bilal as he may have some insight into what would alow better th without pg being the main liquid ingredient

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Re: Throat Hit HOW?
« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2012, 02:25:51 AM »
It may be worth getting a small bottle of PEG to try, see if replacing some of your AG with PEG gives the result you're after. The main problem with PEG is that it needs an atty to be at the top of its game as it will wimp out a bit sooner than with VG or PG. Also some don't like the creamy/oily feel of PEG vapour, but as you'll be mixing it with VG/AG anyway you probably won't notice it too much.

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Re: Throat Hit HOW?
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2012, 03:57:46 AM »
Do TW still do PEG I wanted to get some and could not find any on the online shop.  Don't know if it is me being special but could not see it anywhere.
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Re: Throat Hit HOW?
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2012, 07:39:23 AM »
Love PEG, it's what I use with AG.

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Re: Throat Hit HOW?
« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2012, 07:56:40 AM »
Do TW still do PEG I wanted to get some and could not find any on the online shop.  Don't know if it is me being special but could not see it anywhere.


Were wonderin this meself, was an option other day when I ordered 100ml of VG, but don't seem to be there now.

Good news though, looks like I can afford a new device/setup, but the question is now, what to go for.

Were lookin @ the Tornado types, but also the VV batts sounded like mebe a worthwhile thing too.

Hmm it's a mind field out there, hehe

But basic requirements I'm lookin for is...

A good TH (Note I'm a VG user atm) - Would ideally like a device that I can still get TH from if I lower my nicotine strength. Currently had to go upto 24mg to get anythin.

Easy device to refill, I use Cartomizers atm (510 CE2's I think) so somethin on a similar ease of use would be great

If no passthrough option, definately a good batt life.

What du recommend for me?

Jab
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Re: Throat Hit HOW?
« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2012, 09:43:19 AM »
Is the Torpedo VVV with a cartomizer system a viable option or would a DCT be a better one?

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Re: Throat Hit HOW?
« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2012, 10:06:11 AM »
The dct is a cartomiser system anyway. And it is a 510 connection so will work on any tornado ego battery including the twist which is a great buy but you will only get the best from it with a high resistance cartomiser which tw are waiting on getting in. The ones supplied are 1.5ohm the high resistance is 3ohm

It will work fine just most of the variable voltage benefits are seen on a higher resistance atty.

The torpedo is a great device but huge so not something to carry about. The twist is big but still pockatable for everyday use

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Re: Throat Hit HOW?
« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2012, 10:37:33 AM »
Mainly want somethin to use @ home so size aint a major factor really.

The torpedo is in the lead atm and mebe just add a HR DCT after?

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Re: Throat Hit HOW?
« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2012, 10:47:40 AM »
Yeah definately the torpedo comes with two attys which are OK for dripping but if you have a tornado or ego you can use that on the torpedo with a small adapter they are on the torpedo page I think and cost a couple of quid the normal ego attys are very good on the torpedo as well

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Re: Throat Hit HOW?
« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2012, 07:21:53 PM »
Ok just a mini update. Still decidin/searchin/researchin a new device, but...

I know have some throat hit usin some 18mg self made juice so thats kinda cool, need to work on taste/flavour now

Hopefully with next device I can drop to 11mg

I changed my vapin technique and seem to be gettin the rewards more :)

Jab

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Re: Throat Hit HOW?
« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2012, 07:49:50 PM »
Yeah technique seems to be the thing that gets most people.  It does take a while to get the best method of using a new ecig.
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