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Offline Casion

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Just been banned from vaping at my desk at work...
« on: February 23, 2012, 07:07:12 AM »
I knew it was going to happen sooner or later, but that time is now.
Due to a complaint at work, vaping has been banned at our desks.  We are still able to vape in the break room however.
I think it might have been from a pregnant co-worker.

Iím not really angry, as I knew it was coming.  I just wanted to get your thoughts on the matter.

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Re: Just been banned from vaping at my desk at work...
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2012, 07:55:22 AM »
ask why? cite increased productivity discuss the issues? was it knee jerk waaa someone doesnt like it so we banned it? why allow it in the break room etc?

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Re: Just been banned from vaping at my desk at work...
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2012, 08:20:23 AM »
There is no arguing this.  There is no proof to say that passive vaping is safe (although there is none to say that it isn't).
This is a compromise to try to keep as many people happy as possible.  I don't have to stand out in the cold, but I don't get to vape at my desk.  The company loses out by this, as I generally don't take breaks.

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Re: Just been banned from vaping at my desk at work...
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2012, 08:33:36 AM »
There is no arguing this.  There is no proof to say that passive vaping is safe (although there is none to say that it isn't).

Totally agree, until such time that there are some proper clinical research done you'll never be able to fight it. It's extremely frustrating :(





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Re: Just been banned from vaping at my desk at work...
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2012, 08:35:33 AM »
Hi Casion, what a sad day for you.. :(
Whilst vaping is totally legal and you are not setting fire to anything or emitting noxious fumes, your workplace will reserve the right to dictate on this issue and you can't insist... a lot of education of colleagues and management staff would be needed to reverse the decision for you....and you may not succeed.
i would be interested to hear on what grounds they have decided to ban you from vaping.
your health....not applicable
co-workers' health...n/a
fouling the atmosphere...n/a  (or boiling the kettle for a teabreak would be forbidden too)
distracting you from work (productivity) ....n/a  and in fact if you have to leave your station to go outside and take a nic break it will reduce your productivity due to time away from your work station...and there's the concentration issue too...have you seen this excellent article in the Wicked archive? You might want to print it out for your employer to take a look, here's an extract:
Nicotine boosts attention,
precision, motor skills,
speed and memory

http://dengulenegl.dk/English/Nicotine.html

hmmmmm, maybe you could file a counter-complaint...against blind prejudice.
Sadly, even educating the complainant and getting their complaint retracted won't necessarily restore your vaping options, but if you were to take it on that would be the place to start...however I'll bet nobody will openly admit to being the one who complained, so where would you start?
If you're still permitted to vape in a room used for breaks, how does that tally with another worker having complained? Only forbidden at your desk? Sounds like management's issue rather than a co-worker who might also use the break room?
Ah well, one day we'll laugh at all these prejudices.... :D
hope you get well-practised at stealth-vaping in the meantime ::)

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Re: Just been banned from vaping at my desk at work...
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2012, 08:37:33 AM »
I knew it was going to happen sooner or later, but that time is now.
Due to a complaint at work, vaping has been banned at our desks.  We are still able to vape in the break room however.
I think it might have been from a pregnant co-worker.

Iím not really angry, as I knew it was coming.  I just wanted to get your thoughts on the matter.


I'd say your lucky. They still make me drive of campus for this!  ???

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Re: Just been banned from vaping at my desk at work...
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2012, 08:49:26 AM »
I got an exemption for vapors at my now smoke free uni by asking the health and safety bod nicely.

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Re: Just been banned from vaping at my desk at work...
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2012, 09:03:19 AM »
@ Pufferfish

Thank you for your great response.  I have been vaping for over a year in the office, after educating everyone, and people have 'tolerated' it up until now.
However, in the meantime another 3 people have started using them and although management don't seem to have a problem with me vaping, too many people vaping is starting to cause concern.  This is why i knew they would put a stop to it.  The break room vaping is the comprimise.  If people don't like me vaping in the break room, they can tell me to my face and we can settle it ourselves.  However, the office is an open office and as a result is a shared working area that you cannot move away from.

Stealth vaping is the way forward, but I need to wait until people have stopped watching me to see if I'm vaping or not.

Also, if it is a pregnant co-worker that has instigated this, I am not in a position to claim that passive vaping wont harm her baby.  You'll be hard pressed to find anyone that will make this statement.
« Last Edit: February 23, 2012, 09:06:44 AM by Casion »

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Re: Just been banned from vaping at my desk at work...
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2012, 09:13:29 AM »
Theres always someone in work who complains about another member of staff (usually female! No sexism here, just from experience). Wouldnt take it personal, its their lack of understanding.

Just go to the staff loo every 15 mins :)

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Re: Just been banned from vaping at my desk at work...
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2012, 09:35:24 AM »
I have found that jealious smokers play a big role in getting vaping banned.
They can't smoke, so they don't like the fact that we get to vape in places they can't light up in.
As a general manager, I let my office personell vape as I do. We have a sign in the lobby that saying
"If your smoking here, you better be on fire". As an X-smoker I really don't mind either, but if someone objects
I have a responsibility to address their concern.
This could be the case, the managers hands are tied if someone complained. He could have a class action or
discrimination charge looking at him/her if nothing was done.

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Re: Just been banned from vaping at my desk at work...
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2012, 10:12:55 AM »
I have found that jealious smokers play a big role in getting vaping banned.
They can't smoke, so they don't like the fact that we get to vape in places they can't light up in.
As a general manager, I let my office personell vape as I do. We have a sign in the lobby that saying
"If your smoking here, you better be on fire". As an X-smoker I really don't mind either, but if someone objects
I have a responsibility to address their concern.
This could be the case, the managers hands are tied if someone complained. He could have a class action or
discrimination charge looking at him/her if nothing was done.

I'm not sure that you would have a case if you asked for something to be banned, that wasn't illegal, and it wasn't banned.
We have a "no hot food at desks" ban too, so I guess it falls more under that category.

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Re: Just been banned from vaping at my desk at work...
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2012, 11:58:34 AM »
case of someone being a prick for the sake of being a prick, self righteous anti smoking prick? had one lecturing me the other day that its just as bad as smoking etc etc etc that I was scum for smoking etc.

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Re: Just been banned from vaping at my desk at work...
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2012, 12:28:06 PM »
case of someone being a prick for the sake of being a prick, self righteous anti smoking prick? had one lecturing me the other day that its just as bad as smoking etc etc etc that I was scum for smoking etc.



Ignorance is bliss and now a days there seem to be far too many people in a deep state of bliss. Also the fact that there may be smokers that either have not or do not want to make the switch to vaping in your office that get jealous and complain like some one said earlier and company policy overrides laws. Simply put, if you don't want to comply with their policy you're out of a job and vaping on the streets anyway so you kind of have to listen to their stupid rules and policies. At least they let you vape in the break room they could have went all crazy and make you stand outside with the analog smokers.

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Re: Just been banned from vaping at my desk at work...
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2012, 03:36:16 PM »
I knew it was going to happen sooner or later, but that time is now.
Due to a complaint at work, vaping has been banned at our desks.  We are still able to vape in the break room however.
I think it might have been from a pregnant co-worker.

Iím not really angry, as I knew it was coming.  I just wanted to get your thoughts on the matter.

It's a tricky subject to discuss with your employer isn't it? What do you do, make waves with the authoritah and get your card marked as a trouble maker over a matter of principle, or just accept that our puppet masters always get their way ultimately?

I do certainly have sympathy with the pregnant woman if she's genuinely completely in the dark about vaping, but the least she could have done was do some research before calling foul, perhaps had a chat with you about it first. I guess she just didn't feel like making the effort. Sometimes though, it's best to just hedge your bets and accept that at least you're still allowed to vape inside, out of the cold and rain...right?

And I agree with others, it's often smokers who cause problems, that's certainly been my experience in pubs in the past - if anyone's gonna kick off about it, it's the poor pasty faced stinkers huddled round a single ashtray in a force 9 gale.
« Last Edit: February 23, 2012, 03:39:25 PM by b3ast1e »

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Re: Just been banned from vaping at my desk at work...
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2012, 07:40:31 PM »
if it helps, i have to stealth vape in the handicap crapper at work.....no cigs or e cigs
you can't take it with you, but I'll let you hold it for awhile.

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Re: Just been banned from vaping at my desk at work...
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2012, 01:26:01 PM »
I vape in my office, the guy I share my office with is a real anti smoker, his wife works for the NHS stop smoking clinic.

He is amazed at the vaping, supports me and has no issues with me vaping in the office.

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Re: Just been banned from vaping at my desk at work...
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2012, 01:40:29 PM »
OMG....!!!

Where I go to school, I can sit in class and vape as awesomely as I want to - and NOBODY says a thing about it.
My mother-in-law sits in an office all day, and vapes - none of her co-workes says anything about it, cause it doesn't bother them.

I am aware that I live in Denmark, and we have these slightly soft rules (exept when it comes to money  ;)  :P ), but saying that you can't vape by your desk... Hmm...

The only reason why there's coming any kind of vapour out, is the air you breathe through the atomitizer... The word says it all...
But as some of the others have said: Go to the crapper as often as possible, and vape... The boss can't stop you from having to "pee" or something a bit more timeconsuming than that  :P


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Re: Just been banned from vaping at my desk at work...
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2012, 03:10:26 PM »
I agree if a complaint goes in to a manager they would be leaving themselves and/or company open for legal action however

I STRONGLY disagree with company's that make you stand out at a smoking area. I know this is not the case here but i have heard of this. I would really object to this happening since they are forcing me a NON SMOKER to stand out and inhale second hand smoke endangering my life when I have already taken steps to preserve it by vaping.

Anyway on this matter I would say its a compromise but shame on whoever went a crying to management   

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Re: Just been banned from vaping at my desk at work...
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2012, 03:45:34 PM »
I STRONGLY disagree with company's that make you stand out at a smoking area. I know this is not the case here but i have heard of this. I would really object to this happening since they are forcing me a NON SMOKER to stand out and inhale second hand smoke endangering my life when I have already taken steps to preserve it by vaping.

+11111111111111

I'm with you on this 100% I've not smoked before but never for this length of time and I swear the level of disgust for the smell of smoke is exponential. I was in the supermarket today and the man beside me was obviously a smoker and he was stood handling the meat and stinking the place out, I had to walk out of the aisle it was so revolting, because I didn't want to know which products he had handled because my twisted psych was telling me it was tainted!!!! Ya Stupid I know but really that is how I felt.

I've twice now had to stand outside with the "smokers" and resented every minute, not the standing outside, but being made to inhale thier stink; make me feel sort of s*it that I forced others to do it for years, but also, makes be feel angry that I've made a positive life choice and I'm still penalised for it.

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Re: Just been banned from vaping at my desk at work...
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2012, 04:50:43 PM »
Hi All,

I was speaking with a mate who still works at a company that I did, they encourage vaping and are considering penalising smokers who take smoke breaks by deducting the time from dinner break,their line is you can vape at your work station.

seems ok to m e.

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Re: Just been banned from vaping at my desk at work...
« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2012, 05:12:20 PM »
is that in US or UK terrier

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Re: Just been banned from vaping at my desk at work...
« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2012, 05:44:55 PM »
I vape at my desk whenever i want and nobody will stop me. just let them try and ill tell them where to stick it.

Did i mention im home based :)
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Re: Just been banned from vaping at my desk at work...
« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2012, 07:26:43 PM »
Soon we'll be terminated when we let a fart... ;) ;) ;)

 

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