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leaking smokeymisers
« on: September 14, 2011, 10:40:13 AM »
Is anyone else having problems with leaking smokeymisers?I fill them and they totally drain in minutes,into the battery or onto my work bench.They leak through the bottom.

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Re: leaking smokeymisers
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2011, 10:54:32 AM »
Hi Billd,

Yes it can be fiddly to fill them, some people have had better success if you can put a rubber cap over the battery contact like this:


and when you fill them, inject the eliquid slowly, you need to allow the air to escape from the same hole you are injecting the eliquid into:





and then replace the small rubber bung before removing the rubber cap

I hope this helps ;)

Good luck!
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Re: leaking smokeymisers
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2011, 07:52:35 PM »
Thank you,I will try your suggestions. :)

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Re: leaking smokeymisers
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2011, 08:09:10 PM »
Is it only one that's leaking or all of them?  I've noticed a lot of variation in how each one that I've tried so far wick, some so much they leak and others not enough to vape.  When they do work, though, they're awesome.  I've got one on the tenth fill right now and it's still working beautifully :)

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Re: leaking smokeymisers
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2011, 03:37:11 PM »
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Re: leaking smokeymisers
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2011, 05:32:23 PM »
I find that when filling 1 out of 10 smokymizers (which I love) they can empty quite quickly (maybe due to the air hole at the bottom) so when I refill I keep the smokymizer horizontal and replace the little rubber bung as fast as u can which creates an air lock an stops leaking, then blow down ur smokymizer to get rid of any liquid in the tube an ur good to go ! Or follow the tutorial by ASTRECKS witch I just did that's works just as well with out the mess lol........ASTRECKS u always have the best solutions! U are a vaping legend !!!!

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Re: leaking smokeymisers
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2011, 05:36:20 AM »
Where can you get that cup please?

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Re: leaking smokeymisers
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2011, 05:50:46 AM »
The cap should be on the end of the drip tip.
Or you can also use the ones supplied with
the dual coil carto's, and I would imagine that
a few of the other atty's or cartos have ones that
are suitable?
 (thats what I do, cos I'm
a devil for putting stuff down, then can't remember
where I've left it!  ::) lol)


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Re: leaking smokeymisers
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2012, 10:35:58 PM »
I just bought two boxes of them - the CE3's.  They leak everywhere. I didn't have that problem with the clearomizers, but thanks to leaky smokymizers, I've wasted about 10 ml of good vape liquid - Now, I'm not going to use them anymore. Very very disappointed.

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Re: leaking smokeymisers
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2012, 01:02:11 AM »
That would be cool if the bung wasn't almost impossible to get in, in the first place.  Yeah, leaked a good 3mls of liquid all over the place.  Bung in, the damn thing still leaks some.

I guess we know why there is a CE4.  I'm just disappointed that the Clear-o's that I bought all cracked in under a week, the little "ultimate" ones work okay, but hold 0.6 mls and don't vape quite as well (and filling them risks moving the "plug" around and screwing up the wick), and the 5-pack of CE3s that I bought all leak like hell.

Seriously?

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Re: leaking smokeymisers
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2012, 02:36:58 AM »
That would be cool if the bung wasn't almost impossible to get in.
...

I found out that instead of holding the bung with a pair of tweezers just hold the smoky horizontal
with the bung hole facing down, put the bung on the edge close to the hole and put the tweezer togheter
and use it to slowly slide the bung inside the hole.
When I was still using the smokys I got so used to this method I could do it with my fingers only and just
needed something to press the bung down tight in the hole  :D

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Re: leaking smokeymisers
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2012, 09:49:40 AM »
That would be cool if the bung wasn't almost impossible to get in.
...

I found out that instead of holding the bung with a pair of tweezers just hold the smoky horizontal
with the bung hole facing down, put the bung on the edge close to the hole and put the tweezer togheter
and use it to slowly slide the bung inside the hole.
When I was still using the smokys I got so used to this method I could do it with my fingers only and just
needed something to press the bung down tight in the hole  :D

I appreciate the advice, but it's not the bung that's the problem, as far as I can tell.  It's just kind of a pain.  I have 3 sitting in the other room, half-filled, because even after following all the "right" steps, they slowly drip out all the juice.  Overnight half the reservoir empties itself?  That's messed up, and damned expensive.  Annoying to have the juice all over your shirt pocket, too, if you carry them there. 

Seems like maybe the wicking speed versus leak resistance needs to slide towards the right, with either thicker wick or a smaller hole.  I just don't see any way to get in there and do that myself.  :(


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Re: leaking smokeymisers
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2012, 04:20:52 PM »
Seems like maybe the wicking speed versus leak resistance needs to slide towards the right, with either thicker wick or a smaller hole.  I just don't see any way to get in there and do that myself.  :(

Perhaps I need to spike the juice with some VG.  Up the viscosity a little.  Worth a try, anyway.

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Re: leaking smokeymisers
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2012, 05:25:41 PM »
After my first CE3 leaked everywhere when I was filling it and I realised the mistakes I had made I never had one leak while filling it.

HOWEVER... The last pack of CE3s are fine until they start to get low on liquid, then they just seem to drop it out of the bottom for no apparent reason. Refill and they are fine until they get low again. I am so fed up with this vaping lark right now. Nothing seems to work properly, nothing seems to be fixed as claimed and it's just winding me up  :'(  :'(  :'(


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Re: leaking smokeymisers
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2012, 09:32:09 PM »
Meh.  In all honesty, the CE2 Ultimates were doing to job pretty well.  I'm just going to pick up another couple of packs of those and move forward.  Not worth it to stress over leaks and loss of spendy juice.   :D

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Re: leaking smokeymisers
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2012, 01:38:22 PM »
Hey DR, yeah, I think it would be worth spiking one with some VG just to see.  I don't have any leaking problems with the CE3s (all NOS though, not tried the new ones yet).  But I mix all VG/AG, so my mixes do tend toward the thick side. :-\   well, IMO, worth a shot anyway.  If it doesn't help, at least you already know you like the CE2s. ;)
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Re: leaking smokeymisers
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2012, 08:19:46 AM »
I encase the thread end in blu tack then the juice doesn't leak out at all. Fill them up, put the bungs back in turn them over and remove the blu tack.

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Re: leaking smokeymisers
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2012, 08:28:49 AM »
Another way to aquire a rubber casing to cover the bottom is to cut off the rubber tip of the eye dropper supplied with the eliquid and use that.  Its a little hard to get on the first couple of times but after that is stretches out and works pretty good.

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Re: leaking smokeymisers
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2012, 08:36:09 PM »
i know this thread is going back a few months now but i have had the same problem with my new smokies.. The old ones used to be ok other than shorting 2 of my batteries  :'(

I filled them correctly just like i used to as i have been using them a while now, but i too sometimes get the leaking everywere. Im on my last one now and have bought the DCT as i have heard good things about it, so ill be leaving the smokies now as after the DCT i am saving for the ego c as i hear its the bee's knee's  ;D


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Re: leaking smokeymisers
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2012, 03:20:16 PM »
I was just sent to this thread and it solved nothing.  The design is terrible and I don't blame TW.  There are many companies that make CE products and CE is by far the worse type of vape method. 

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Re: leaking smokeymisers
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2012, 03:46:41 PM »
I was just sent to this thread and it solved nothing.  The design is terrible and I don't blame TW.  There are many companies that make CE products and CE is by far the worse type of vape method. 

In your opinion.

I love them.  Except for the "C"s, the CE3s have the best flavor (IMO).
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Re: leaking smokeymisers
« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2012, 04:17:15 PM »
My experience with the smokys is that 3 out of 5 was working excellent and one would work ok after some breaking in.
one out of five did was really bad and not vapeable at all. For that cheap price I dont expect high quality.
When I learned how to refill them without leaking they was great to me.
The only reason I quit using them was because of the battery killing issue.
That issue has been solved now. I have not tried the new smokys though
But since that the c-atty has come and that one is for me the best there is.

I also like the CE2 ultimate edtion with some flavours.
I love the varm vape with for ex roasted chestnut.

I soon learnt that there is a surprising amount of people who happen to love a product
and there is often about a equal amount of people that dislike that very same product.

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Re: leaking smokeymisers
« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2012, 02:24:25 PM »

I appreciate the advice, but it's not the bung that's the problem, as far as I can tell.  It's just kind of a pain.  I have 3 sitting in the other room, half-filled, because even after following all the "right" steps, they slowly drip out all the juice.  Overnight half the reservoir empties itself?  That's messed up, and damned expensive.  Annoying to have the juice all over your shirt pocket, too, if you carry them there. 

Seems like maybe the wicking speed versus leak resistance needs to slide towards the right, with either thicker wick or a smaller hole.  I just don't see any way to get in there and do that myself.  :(


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I am having the same problem...it is leakage out the bottom and maybe evaporation overnight? i find that i only dare fill two at once that way i'm not wasting all the fluid in filling all five and leaving them overnight. if you find a solution i would love to hear it

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Re: leaking smokeymisers
« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2012, 08:54:22 AM »
Hi All,

Not sure if people are still having issues with these.

I bought 5 initally, and all of them have been apsolutly fine. I broke one myself by havng my Titan in my back pocket and sitting down on it (ooops) But they have all had a good 5-10 fills and all work well. I wouldnt change from the Smokeys.

I always make sure I fill it up to about 1 to 2mm from the top, and make sure I have the rubber cap over the battery end.

It may be that there was a slight problem with the ones you recieved, I would contact TW if you are having problems - They arre very good and helpful are sorting problems out.

I honestly dont know what to suggest. Just make sure the bung is in tight etc.

Hope you guys get it sorted and keep using the smokeies


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Re: leaking smokeymisers
« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2012, 09:14:06 AM »
Condensation forms in the central tube which is inevitable, vaping and condensation go together unfortunately. When you remove the Smokymizer from the battery, just blow down the mouthpiece gently to rid the central tube of any condensed eliquid left in the tube as it could act as a syphon, especially in warm conditions. If you are carrying filled spare Smokymizers around, leave a rubber cap on the threaded end.
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Re: leaking smokeymisers
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2012, 11:12:32 PM »
It definitely took some time fracking around before I was able to get them to preform just right (for me). They didn't work well for me in the beginning, but I was determined to figure it out because I loved the TH and vapor production so much. Many sad times of cursing, rage, and crying skyward were had.
What works for me is this:
*Prep yo’ self! - paper towels to put stuff on, ear buds (cotton swabs), tweezers, needle, syringe (filled with your liquid),

1. Take the black plug/bung out (mouthpiece too, and I use a can of air to blow out the mouthpiece of any spare condensation or liquid). Now, these bungs were such a pain for the first few tries, and I've ending up flinging them a pretty remarkable distance. While holding the smokymizer at an angle (mouthpiece side downward, a few inches over the paper towel so that it can just 'roll' out) I take the non-tweezing end of the tweezers and gently wiggle the bung out by putting the tweezers on one side. *Note: gently. After this is completed, I take my paper towel, and CAREFULLY (so it doesn't roll off into a void somewhere) pat it dry, it will make re-insertion easier.
2. Wipe off any liquid from the threads on the battery end.
2. Blow from the battery end to get all the liquid out from that middle tube, and extra juice leftover so that it doesn't mix in with the new flavor I'm putting in.
3. Putting that rubber cap/condom thing (that I got in a pack of the smokymizers) on over the battery end of the threads. Try to put it on most, if not all of the way.
4. Hold the smokymizer at a slight angle, mouthpiece downward, but put the filling hole towards the ceiling.
5. Insert your syringe needle (not all the way, see Astrecks photos of right and wrong, that had helped me out SO much! He truly is a vaping legend!)
6. Very, very slowly start putting liquid into the smokymizer, keeping that slight downward angle. In my experience, I had to learn how slowly to do this the hard way, by having the liquid repeatedly come back out of the hole I had the needle in. What helped me with that was having some control over the plunger part of the syringe while inserting the liquid to make sure I wasn't putting liquid in faster than I wanted to, but I also have carpal tunnel so full, accurate use of my hands is limited a good part of the time (being stubborn and not taking care of it after diagnosis, Don't judge me!  :P) Remember to leave some room for an air bubble, to prevent over-filling.
(*Note: if you have to set down the smokymizer for any reason, make sure it stays in one place and doesn't roll off the table, but if you can, try to keep it at a slight downward angle.)
7. After you pull out your syringe, the bung-fun begins. The filling hole still needs to be toward the ceiling. Making sure the bung and your tweezers are dry, carefully pick up the bung with the tweezers, but try to keep the tweezers above that little lip at the top, or at least close to it. Don’t tweeze it too tightly though, or it will go flying somewhere.  Keeping the smokymizer at that angle (or horizontally, if you want to at this point) try to “feel around” for the hole while looking through the top of the smokymizer to see where that hole is and insert the bung GENTLY, but try to get it at least a little bit of the way in, and then use the blunt end of the tweezers to push it the rest of the way in. Make sure it’s secure.
8. Take a cotton swab and swab out any liquid that is chillin around the place where the bung is.
9. Apply your mouthpiece.
10. Remove the ‘condom’ you put over the threads that are at the bottom of your smokymizer (unless you’re pre-filling it for later, in that case, keep it on).
11. Vape!

--As others have said, there is condensation. To try to minimize this, I let go of my button a second or two before I am done taking a puff to get any extra vapor out so it doesn’t sit there and then just drip down my mouthpiece later. Also, condensation can form around the battery end of the smokymizer as well, so there are two reasons for me doing that.  It still happens, but happens minimally. When I get down to the last little bit, I do seem to get some drippage.

Again, this is what has worked for me. I don’t know if blowing from the battery end voids some sort of warranty or not.  I my goal here is to share as best I could to hopefully help someone else like others here have helped me. If anything I said is incorrect, I’m sure people who actually know what they are doing will chime in  :)

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Re: leaking smokeymisers
« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2012, 11:42:28 PM »
Wow wow wow...that must have taken hours to type
well done missnykki,that has to be THE most indepth description i have EVER read
kudos to you girl  :D

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« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2012, 06:00:50 PM »
Aw thank you, kind sir!  :D
  I don't think it took more than an hour and a half, but what I do is write down everything that comes to mind, even if it's out of order, and then I just organize it afterward so I don't lose whatever is on my mind while screwing around to figure out where to insert it. My mind goes a mile a minute most of the time. I always read through it a few times after I think I'm done editing, just in case I missed something. I had started to write it here, then I just decided to finish it in the Word program for grammar and what not. I hope this has/will gelp!

 

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