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Another total let down - CE4 Tankos
« on: January 19, 2012, 01:23:19 PM »
Well, I had high hopes for the new CE4 tankos but once again I am bitterly disappointed.

Agreed, they are much simpler to fill than a CE3 smoky (once you get used to filling smokies though it really isnt that much hassle) and they do look better on a tornado/ego battery however...

First one out the pack, blew it out to remove any excess primer and filled it. I decided that I would use my own absinthe mix (8mg AG based PI + 5% AG + 20% falvour + rest PG) as it's fairly forgiving, it pretty much masks all bad taste as the flavour of the absinthe is so strong. Filled the CE4 slowly to just below the inner tube level, some liquid was seeping from the bottom end. Put back together and blew down it again to remove any remaining primer then let it sit for 30 minutes. After 30 minutes I picked up the CE4 and gave the casing a flick until I see some bubbles rising up from the atty, screwed it on the battery and its ready for action.

First few draws were nasty but fair enough, it might need a little breaking in so I took a heap more drags. One thing I will say is it seems to produce a good amount of vapour but that's really irrelevant since the vapour tastes and smells burnt and plasticy.

I am so fed up of buying stuff that doesn't deliver. I will see if the CE4 perks up after I've run some more liquid through it and if not I'll wait for the 6ml dual coil tanks... if they don't perform either Im going back to analogs, yeah they may be bad for you but at least I don't have to worry about consistency. My kit will be available to buy on ebay.


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Re: Another total let down - CE4 Tankos
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2012, 02:02:27 PM »
Hi Tez

really sorry to hear that the CE4's do not appear to we working well for you.
I tried this product when they arrived and noticed that they require a little 'breaking in' but once passed this stage, the flavour, vapour and throat hit was great so please do persevere with this.

The last thing we want you to do is give up vaping altogether, so let me know if your problem persists.

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Re: Another total let down - CE4 Tankos
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2012, 02:11:06 PM »
Hi Tez

really sorry to hear that the CE4's do not appear to we working well for you.
I tried this product when they arrived and noticed that they require a little 'breaking in' but once passed this stage, the flavour, vapour and throat hit was great so please do persevere with this.

The last thing we want you to do is give up vaping altogether, so let me know if your problem persists.

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Hi Louise, thanks for posting, it is appreciated.

It's not just the CE4s though, pretty much everything I have tried gives random results, there seems to be a real lack of consistency and quality control. I will see if the CE4 breaks in over the next few fills though, fingers crossed.


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Re: Another total let down - CE4 Tankos
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2012, 02:49:39 PM »
Hello Tez

Let us know how you get on... I have been having the same problems - consistancy... The last hope was going to be the CE4's.


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Re: Another total let down - CE4 Tankos
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2012, 03:04:39 PM »
To be fair I had issues with consistency until I got my Mega cartomizers they are awesome if you haven't tried them please do the throat hit and flavour are amazing. Never had burnt taste with these and vapor is average but enough and with a tick in the other two boxes this is great value at 10 for 3.

Unfortunately I find with the cleros they taste of plastic and the nado attys only last me a week the Mega cartos last about 2 and need filling hardly ever after the first mammoth first fill. Really surprised how much I like them

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Re: Another total let down - CE4 Tankos
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2012, 03:06:55 PM »
Looks like I said something wrong! sorry!

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Re: Another total let down - CE4 Tankos
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2012, 03:12:56 PM »
I can really relate to the inconsitency problems, i love CE3s and had 3 batches now, 1st batch 4/5 were perfect, 2nd batch 3/5 were great and now the 3rd batch ive used 2 and both are awful.

Liquid coming up the airpipe and needing blowing out wasting fluid, im on my 3rd ml of liquid today and im usually a 3ml a day kinda guy! So you can see how much i am wasting! Also, they dont vape very well, tight pulls, mouthfulls of juice and poor vapour production, not impressed at all.

Another rant on the CE4 though, they wont fit my SD or other mods, only specific batteries so no use for me really lol but after the reviews here i dont think ill be using them, specially for the price.

I begrudge paying 9.99 for 5 CE3s when only 3 of them may work! Whats the point? lol may as well throw my money up the wall!

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Re: Another total let down - CE4 Tankos
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2012, 03:32:28 PM »
I can really relate to the inconsitency problems, i love CE3s and had 3 batches now, 1st batch 4/5 were perfect, 2nd batch 3/5 were great and now the 3rd batch ive used 2 and both are awful.

Liquid coming up the airpipe and needing blowing out wasting fluid, im on my 3rd ml of liquid today and im usually a 3ml a day kinda guy! So you can see how much i am wasting! Also, they dont vape very well, tight pulls, mouthfulls of juice and poor vapour production, not impressed at all.

Yep, I love the CE3s when they perform but like yourself, I have the exact problems you have described. How can one perform so well and the rest perform so badly, I cant help but think if these things were assembled by machines rather than people then we would see much more consistency. I had one CE3 still going strong after about 3 weeks, started to always leak when it gets down to the last .5 ml of liquid now but I really am not going to complain at that after 3 weeks. Its funny because now when I crack open a CE3 and it works well right away I dont want to vape on it as I dont want to wear it out  ::)

Another rant on the CE4 though, they wont fit my SD or other mods, only specific batteries so no use for me really lol but after the reviews here i dont think ill be using them, specially for the price.

The CE4 should fit the SD if you have the tank kit, its pretty much the same design as a tornado cone.

I begrudge paying 9.99 for 5 CE3s when only 3 of them may work! Whats the point? lol may as well throw my money up the wall!

**RANT OFF** :)

Yep, thats how I feel right now. I really hope this CE4 breaks in and works well because they are twice the price of CE3s, in fact they cost the same as a strip of ego atties.

To be fair I had issues with consistency until I got my Mega cartomizers they are awesome if you haven't tried them please do the throat hit and flavour are amazing. Never had burnt taste with these and vapor is average but enough and with a tick in the other two boxes this is great value at 10 for 3.

Unfortunately I find with the cleros they taste of plastic and the nado attys only last me a week the Mega cartos last about 2 and need filling hardly ever after the first mammoth first fill. Really surprised how much I like them

The megas are ok but I try to avoid anything with wadding where possible, I have a habit of running them dry, burning them and once burnt forget it, bin it.  Thats why I moved on to clearos as it takes the guesswork out of how much liquid is left. The clearos I tried tasted absolutely hideous, all 5 of them but the smokies beat everything hands down for flavour reproduction if you get a good one. Some people seem put off due to the filling method but that doesn't really matter to me (once I got the hang of it I was able to fill 3 or 4 smokies in half the time it takes to fill a carto) what matters is flavour and to a lesser extent vapour production.


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Re: Another total let down - CE4 Tankos
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2012, 03:43:53 PM »
LOL I do the same with good CE3s and HOPE and PRAY that they work, im always apprehensive loading it up and letting it sit, waiting to have a good vape on it, only to be dissapointed! :(

Again with the SD, its more money......and i dont want to spend more money and shouldnt need to! lol (im not tight ive spent WAAAY Too much on something tht was meant to be cheaper than smoking! Im upto nearly 300 in 1 month)

Again, i wouldnt mind spending so much if things worked ok! :)

Had great support from Nathan at TW, he has passed this problem onto Paul and i should hear something back by monday, hopefully with an answer or a solution to the problem. If not...well we'll sort that if we get there :)

Ill stick with the ce3s since i like them so much and its been the only thing ive really used since i started vaping 3weeks ago and had nothing but joy (barre the faulty ones) so feel quite at home with them, they're easy to fill, great vape and flavour is great.
I had some dual coil cartos that i burnt and ruined when i didnt know any better! I have 1 that is still in the packet and can see me getting that out shortly and filling PROPERLY this time!

Anways hope that CE4 gets working! Keep us posted! :)

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Re: Another total let down - CE4 Tankos
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2012, 08:05:28 PM »
well I got home and need to mix up a new batch of absinthe so decided to fill a new CE4 with RL spearmint.

Vapour again smells bad and although the burnt plasticy taste is not as promninent as the first it is still there. I also experienced a lot of liquid in my mouth with this one, the first one didnt do that at all (and no, I didnt get liquid down the center pipe). Only really started getting liquid in my mouth after it was down to it's last third of liquid left.

I've vaped out the spearmint and running through the second fill, still tasting nasty though.


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Re: Another total let down - CE4 Tankos
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2012, 08:21:09 PM »
Same I bought 5 CE4's and they taste horrible which is a shame because they are much nicer to live with on my Tornado but I've lost nearly all the flavor I was getting with the CE2 Clearos.

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Re: Another total let down - CE4 Tankos
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2012, 08:26:00 PM »
Same I bought 5 CE4's and they taste horrible which is a shame because they are much nicer to live with on my Tornado but I've lost nearly all the flavor I was getting with the CE2 Clearos.

Does your vapour also smell bad?


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Re: Another total let down - CE4 Tankos
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2012, 08:48:26 PM »
Haven't tried smelling it but the taste sure is bad.

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Re: Another total let down - CE4 Tankos
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2012, 09:07:40 PM »
I'm not a big fan of those style cartos to begin with, I haven't tried the CE4's yet. Judging from the pics I don't see much of a wick going into the tank section like the CE3's.  I used a similar design carto and when I would get a dry burnt taste I'd remove the tip and put it back.  Sometimes there would be a bit of a vacuum when I vaped about halfway through, that would cause juice to not feed so well removing the tip would release the vacuum and help with the wicking.

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Re: Another total let down - CE4 Tankos
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2012, 09:15:00 PM »
I'm not a big fan of those style cartos to begin with, I haven't tried the CE4's yet. Judging from the pics I don't see much of a wick going into the tank section like the CE3's.  I used a similar design carto and when I would get a dry burnt taste I'd remove the tip and put it back.  Sometimes there would be a bit of a vacuum when I vaped about halfway through, that would cause juice to not feed so well removing the tip would release the vacuum and help with the wicking.

I think im getting through enough liquid to safely say that it's wicking ok though, these things are thirsty for your liquid! I dont mind chewing through liquid if it tastes good but it doesnt. Through a second fill of absinthe now and still tasting nasty.


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Re: Another total let down - CE4 Tankos
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2012, 09:37:20 PM »
It sounds like you've allowed for a long enough break-in period...If what I suggested doesn't help and you're still consistently getting a burnt plastic taste I would stop using and contact customer services.

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Re: Another total let down - CE4 Tankos
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2012, 11:29:25 PM »
yep, pretty much giving up on these. 3 fills and still tasting bad. Will contact CS in the morning.

Finally a bit of luck today, just opened a brand new CE3 to replace the CE4 and its a good one... yay!



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Re: Another total let down - CE4 Tankos
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2012, 01:14:52 PM »
Just received my 5 pack of blue ce4s. Took the tip off removed the bung (didn't need to blow it out). Half filled it with some patriot range caramel liquid. Put it back together and gave it a try. Wow the flavour is fantastic just like the smokeys decent vapour aswell and no burnt plastic taste. It has leaked slightly at the connector end when I filled it up hopefully it won't do it much because it's very hard to get some tissue in there to clean it. Hopefully the other 4 in the pack are ok (In my recent 5 pack of smokeys only 2 worked) but I will wait till this one dies first before I try them.

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Re: Another total let down - CE4 Tankos
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2012, 01:22:53 PM »
Sometimes a cotton bud is easier to use than tissue

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Re: Another total let down - CE4 Tankos
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2012, 01:50:34 PM »
I can also agree with this.

I'm on my second CE4 now to see if it was just the first one I used having issues. Seems I can only fill them up half way before they start leaking out the bottom. And liquid keeps pouring through the mouth piece multiple times. The tank seems to last half a day. I'm not in the mood for constant refilling, sticky hands, not so nice vapour, and horrid taste of e-liquid - So I'm going back to the Mega Dual Coil Cartomizers. These are amazing and I've never had a leak.

I really like the idea of just having a tank of liquid with no padding, but I've tried multiple types and always had problems with leaking and liquid flowing through the mouth piece. To anyone who hasn't tried them, I seriously recommend:  http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.co.uk/products/cartomiser-systems/dual-coil-cartos/tornado-mega-dual-coil-cartomiser-15ohm-product.html

If anyone has had any luck with any other cartomizers please do let me know. The only issue I have with them is that they need refilling each day - and only seem to last a week or two before the quality reduces and they need replacing. Replacing them coupled with the cost of E-liquid does seem to be costing me more than I ever spent actually smoking almost a year ago now. But they are still by far the best method for vaping I've found so far.

I would love to see some further improvements made to them, and a price reduction over time.

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Re: Another total let down - CE4 Tankos
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2012, 02:03:53 PM »
I can answer these consistency issues in a nutshell:

Ego C  8)

4 per atty is dirt cheap once you've purchased the initial rig. Flavour is superb, longevity leaves nothing to be desired and consistency is its middle name

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Re: Another total let down - CE4 Tankos
« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2012, 02:04:26 PM »
In fact, I think that must be what the C stands for!

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Re: Another total let down - CE4 Tankos
« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2012, 02:38:45 PM »
Re leakage from the CE4s

My first one wasn't a problem, 2nd one leaked badly, not just when filling, when on the battery as well. I filled another one at lunchtime and decided I would not vape it until tonight to see if it makes a difference letting it stand for even longer.

Lordy, as for your opinion on the C atties, yes they are very good but still not 100% for me. The point is if TW are selling CE2s CE3s CE4s etc etc then they should work...If you bought a porsche and 3 days out of 5 it didn't start or would only go at 8mph, would you throw it away and buy a fiat 500 :p




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Re: Another total let down - CE4 Tankos
« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2012, 05:34:45 PM »
Re leakage from the CE4s

My first one wasn't a problem, 2nd one leaked badly, not just when filling, when on the battery as well. I filled another one at lunchtime and decided I would not vape it until tonight to see if it makes a difference letting it stand for even longer.

Lordy, as for your opinion on the C atties, yes they are very good but still not 100% for me. The point is if TW are selling CE2s CE3s CE4s etc etc then they should work...If you bought a porsche and 3 days out of 5 it didn't start or would only go at 8mph, would you throw it away and buy a fiat 500 :p


Well Tex supercar ownership has a different set of rules to normal car ownership. IE You can only do 3 racing starts with a Ferrari 458 Italia before the clutch needs replacing! Anyway, I digress.

Completely agree with you actually. CEx is always there to improve on the issues in CEx-1. I thought I'd hold fire before jumping in this time after getting burned (or burned out, where the batteries are concerned) with CE3's. However if you're not happy, you know customer services have always got your back. I know the disappointment is never filled even with a refund; that ellusive holy grail of vaping remains ellusive.

There's always the Torpedo!? What is it about the C that leaves you dissatisfied?


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Re: Another total let down - CE4 Tankos
« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2012, 05:46:14 PM »

Well Tex supercar ownership has a different set of rules to normal car ownership. IE You can only do 3 racing starts with a Ferrari 458 Italia before the clutch needs replacing! Anyway, I digress.


Heh I know that feeling, I have a TVR tuscan, I can only drive off from traffics lights 3 times before the clutch needs replacing lol. So supercars and vaping can't really be compared but you know what I was getting at :)


Anyhow.... I have further news on the CE4.

At lunchtime I filled a new CE4 with RL banana liquid. I decided I would leave it until I got home to vape on it and WOW what a different experience. Great flavour and no bad smell to the vapour.

Now I don't know if this is just a good one or if I should have left my others to sit around a good while before vaping. I will fill another new one with absinthe later and vape it tomorrow to see how I get on.

This led me to start thinking about something though. I keep my liquid in the fridge, I wonder if the liquid is thickening up at the lower temperatures and 30 minutes standing is not enough time for it to thin out, causing a wicking problem and therefore the first few vapes are burning the wick beyond recovery, especially as I had blown out most if not all of the primer.

I dont want to build my own, or anyone elses hopes up just yet but this CE4 is in a different league to the other two.




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Re: Another total let down - CE4 Tankos
« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2012, 09:48:45 PM »
I dont want to build my own, or anyone elses hopes up just yet but this CE4 is in a different league to the other two.

Well the joy was short lived. First two fills on this CE4 were great but now the throat hit is scratchy and the flavour is just not there like it was before. Liquid coming out of the mouthpiece is also more and more of an issue.

I'll not be ordering any more of these and unless something is done to fix CE3 consistency I've had it with vaping. Sick of wasting considerable sums of money to be a guinea pig for products that supposedly fix the issues of the last itteration but in reality do not.



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Re: Another total let down - CE4 Tankos
« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2012, 10:48:20 PM »
so sorry that you cant find the perfect vape tez77 . you have gone 52 days without the other form of nic,maybe you can see how long you can go without any form of nic. good luck to you.

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Re: Another total let down - CE4 Tankos
« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2012, 11:27:49 PM »
Well my experience of these things so far is that they are utter ****, i bougt a packet of 5 as this seemed like a good deal. I waited with baited breath for them to arrive as when i tried the smokeymisers with my titan 510 batteries i loved them....... these things however........

The packet was squashed and ripped, maybe this was the postman being a bit vigorous, 2 out of the 5 werent even wrapped in cellophane inside the box and 1 of them was missing the rubber sealing bung ( this leads me to believe that perhaps i was inadvertently given a returned item ). They seemed to be not of the high quality i normally expect from TW, very plasticky and crudely put together.

Filling two up was no problem, this is easy and i didnt have any leaks. I then started to vape....... WOW, this was so offensive that i was almost sick, i had blown them through to clear the primer, re primed with my favourite liquid ( Titan French American Red Tobacco btw ) and then had a good 20 puffs prior to vaping as per usual, the taste was so incredibly strong it just wasnt funny, it was like a combination of the TFW and some horrible plastic residue, it made my throat hurt and gave me a coughing fit the like of which i havent had since trying a woodbine aged 15 !!.

I moved onto the second one to try another of my favorites, Patriots double apple shisha, again same thing, totally overpowering plastic and taste, same coughing fit and then it leaked out all over the battery. To say im not impressed is an understatement.
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Re: Another total let down - CE4 Tankos
« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2012, 11:38:39 PM »
Really not happy to hear this :( I was hoping to try them but with all the leaking I don't think I want to waste my money or time  :'(


Old habits die hard...back to vaping!!

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Re: Another total let down - CE4 Tankos
« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2012, 02:12:37 AM »
Obviously the CE4s are getting out and about as there are a few reviews on youtube now, I wont link to them because they promote another vendors site but certainly the review I watched was also complaining about wicking/burnt tastes.

I wonder if the wick is not long enough as it does not protrude into the tank very much.


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