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Offline alexlind

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Propylene Glycol replacement?
« on: August 17, 2011, 02:37:53 PM »
Hi

I was just wondering if it in fact is possible to make e-liquid completely free of Propylene Glycol?

As it is now e-liquid containing nicotine is illigal to sell in Denmark and i am working on changing that and if it could be possible to replace the Propylene Glycol with another solvent it would probably help the progress, though the entire problem is that the reason it is illigal to sell is because the e-liquid is being classified as a pharmacy drug and not a stimulant like regular cigarettes are.

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Re: Propylene Glycol replacement?
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2011, 02:52:41 PM »
Hi

I was just wondering if it in fact is possible to make e-liquid completely free of Propylene Glycol?

As it is now e-liquid containing nicotine is illigal to sell in Denmark and i am working on changing that and if it could be possible to replace the Propylene Glycol with another solvent it would probably help the progress, though the entire problem is that the reason it is illigal to sell is because the e-liquid is being classified as a pharmacy drug and not a stimulant like regular cigarettes are.

Stupid country...

The VG- and PEG400-based Platinum Ice is completely PG-free, though when it comes to flavourings you're a bit restricted, since most have some PG in them. You could use menthol crystals (though they're not very soluble in VG,) or steam distilled essential oils, or the Very Vanilla concentrate is actually PEG400-based, and thus completely PG-free.
Not sure this is going to be enough to get round the regulatory hurdle though, if it's the nicotine that's causing the problem :(

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Re: Propylene Glycol replacement?
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2011, 03:13:45 PM »
That's really tough!!, how do they propose to stop it being sold?
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Re: Propylene Glycol replacement?
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2011, 04:05:46 PM »
Hi

I was just wondering if it in fact is possible to make e-liquid completely free of Propylene Glycol?

As it is now e-liquid containing nicotine is illigal to sell in Denmark and i am working on changing that and if it could be possible to replace the Propylene Glycol with another solvent it would probably help the progress, though the entire problem is that the reason it is illigal to sell is because the e-liquid is being classified as a pharmacy drug and not a stimulant like regular cigarettes are.

Stupid country...

The VG- and PEG400-based Platinum Ice is completely PG-free, though when it comes to flavourings you're a bit restricted, since most have some PG in them. You could use menthol crystals (though they're not very soluble in VG,) or steam distilled essential oils, or the Very Vanilla concentrate is actually PEG400-based, and thus completely PG-free.
Not sure this is going to be enough to get round the regulatory hurdle though, if it's the nicotine that's causing the problem :(

Thanks for the reply

Yeah i know the nicotine is the problem

That's really tough!!, how do they propose to stop it being sold?

Well pretty much by suing anyone who sells it. as far as i know 4 danish companies got lawsuits going at the moment. It is not illigal to import it and use it yorself though

But it just seems so freaking stupid. They allow any supermarket to sell regular cigarettes that contains arsenic, formaldehyde, lead and god knows what since the tobacco industry refuses to inform their customers what they are  inhaling as long as the proper taxes are paid, but they ban the sale of a product that anyone has access to the content of.
At the moment im trying to figure out exactly why the liquid is being classified as it is and if there is any way they can stop seeing it as a pharmacy drug. I have mailed them TW's lab reports today so i hope to get a reply tomorrow.
I know its pretty far fetched to think that i can change this ban alone but i think its worth trying. I will post the progress of the case here on the forum when i know more about their reasons for the ban.
But to be honest i think the reason of the ban is that the gouvernment cant find a proper way to tax it. It was legal for a few years though and i know that the gouvernment was having trouble classifying it back then. A little conspiracy theory :)
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Re: Propylene Glycol replacement?
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2011, 08:24:37 PM »
It's all about the Benjamins...(US Urban slang for "all about the money")

Once I kicked the habit I got assaulted by this hobby

 

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